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  • de2002
    03-11 09:45 AM
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  • vivekm1309
    07-17 03:28 PM
    let us keep fighting /exposing these liars.

    Great ..the tax related point has been removed. I did write to them that my lawyers will be contacting them with proof my tax returns.

    Let us attack more points ...finally they will shorten this fax message to one point ...:)





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  • nozerd
    12-27 02:07 PM
    INFO PROVIDED FOR UK IS INCORRECT.

    Last year my wife (who is on H4) but with a valid US visa stamp on her passport was NOT allowed to board a Continental Airlines flight at Houston airport on her way to India. She was sent home even though she had valid US visa in passport as she did not have UK Transit visa.

    We tried pour level best to convince the ppl at the flight desk but they wouldnt let her check in because of transit visa issues. So please be very careful while transiting through London. We had to pay and reroute via Paris the next day.


    Austria
    Airport transit implies staying within the airport for not more than 24 hours, without crossing the immigration. This applies to those passengers also who may be required to stay in the aircraft during the transit time.

    US Passport Holders: Not required
    Indian Passport Holders: Not Required

    For more information on VISA / transit VISA requirements, please visit the official website of Austrian consulate/embassy.
    http://www.aussenministerium.at/view.php3?f_id=5308&LNG=en&version=text

    Address / Contact numbers in USA
    Austrian Consulate General
    31 East 69th Street
    New York, NY 10021
    Tel: +1 (212) 737 6400
    Fax:+1 (212) 585 1992
    E-mail: info@austria-ny.org
    Public hours: Mo - Fr 9:00 am - 12:00 noon

    Kuwait

    US Passport Holders: Not required
    Indian Passport Holders: Not required
    For more information on VISA / transit VISA requirements, please contact the Kuwait Consulate/Embassy near you.

    Address / Contact numbers in USA
    Kuwait Information Office
    2600 Virginia Ave, NW, Suite 404
    Washington, D.C. 20037
    Phone: 202-338-0211
    Fax: 202-338-0957
    Email:questions@kuwait-info.org


    Netherlands

    US Passport Holders: Not required
    Indian Passport Holders: Not required

    Address / Contact numbers in US
    There are 58 offices across spread across different states in USA. To check the address, contact numbers, email address, working hours, etc., please click the below given URL. http://www.netherlands-embassy.org/location.asp

    UK

    US Passport Holders: Not required
    Indian Passport Holders: Required*

    *Exemptions

    YOU ARE EXEMPT IF::

    You are travelling FROM the US with a valid US visa and a valid airline ticket for travel via the United Kingdom to another country; or
    You are travelling TO the US from another country and hold a valid airline ticket for travel via the United Kingdom and a valid US visa; or
    You last entered the US with a valid US visa which has now expired but you hold a valid airline ticket for travel via the United Kingdom to another country and you are intending to transit the United Kingdom within 6 months of your last date of entry to the US; or
    You have a valid US I - 551 Permanent Residence Card (Green Card) issued on or after 21 April 1998 (but see Note 1 and 2 below); or
    You have a valid US Immigrant Visa packet (form 155A / 155B); or
    You have an expired I - 551 Permanent Residence Card (issued on or after 21 April 1998) and a valid I-797 letter issued by the Bureau of Citizenship authorising its extension (but see Note 1 and 2 below); or
    You have a valid Canadian Permanent Residence Card issued on or after 28 June 2002; or
    You have a valid common format Category D visa issued by EU/EEA member states; or
    You have a valid common format EU residence permit issued under Council Regulation (EC) No 1030/2002;
    You hold a diplomatic or a service passport issued by the People's Republic of China; or
    You hold a diplomatic or an official passport issued by the government of India; or
    You hold a diplomatic or an official passport issued by the government of Vietnam.

    Note :
    Holding an I-512 Parole letter or an I-797C (Notice of Action) instead of a valid US visa; or a Transportation Letter instead of a valid US Permanent Resident Card issued on or after 21 April 1998 does NOT qualify you for exemption from the DAT visa requirement.
    Holding a valid travel document with an ADIT stamp - worded "PROCESSED FOR I-551. TEMPORARY EVIDENCE OF LAWFUL ADMISSION FOR PERMANENT RESIDENCE VALID UNTIL ......EMPLOYMENT AUTHORIZED" - does NOT qualify you for exemption from the DAT visa requirement.
    Whether holders of non-national (including refugee travel documents) require a DATV depends on their nationality and whether they qualify for one of the exemptions listed above. So, for instance, the holder of a non-national travel document (eg. a refugee travel document) who is a national or a citizen of one of the countries listed on the DATV list (eg. Afghanistan) will require a direct airside transit visa if they are travelling to the UK to transit onto a third country.


    There are separate exemptions for holders of Australian, Canadian and New Zealand visas. Please click here for details.

    For more information on VISA / transit VISA requirements, please visit the official website of UK consulate/embassy.

    http://www.britainusa.com/visas/other_show.asp?SarticleType=25&Other_ID=313

    This information has been prepared with utmost care; we cannot accept any responsibility for inaccuracies contained herein.

    Address / Contact numbers in USA
    There are many offices spread across different states in USA. To check the address, contact numbers, email address, working hours, etc., please click the below given URL.
    http://www.britainusa.com/consular/locate.asp

    Switzerland

    US Passport Holders: Not required
    Indian Passport Holders: Not required

    For more information on VISA / transit VISA requirements, please visit the official website of Swiss consulate/embassy.

    www.eda.admin.ch/washington_emb/e/home/consular/visas/needvisa.html

    Address / Contact numbers in USA
    There are many offices spread across different states in USA. To check the address, contact numbers, email address, working hours, etc., please click the below given URL.
    http://www.eda.admin.ch/washington_emb/e/home/ovriew/email.p.html




    * It is the responsibility of all travelers to obtain any required visas and travel permissions. I recommend all travelers check with the airline they are flying regarding applicable Transit and Visa Rules for the country they are transiting through. Immigrationvoice or myslef will NOT be responsible for any traveler being denied boarding on account of incorrect documentation.



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  • jayleno
    10-15 03:31 PM
    Buddy did you even read what I said???
    Looks like you have a plan here. Yep.. lets go ahead and irritate the hell out of USCIS and every agency out there.

    I'm out of here guys

    All the best..





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  • svr_76
    02-19 10:59 PM
    I'm one of those who say with pride that I can create jobs and buy houses. Then why will not congress or policy makers not touch this. As some here said it depends upon what we think about ourselves. I know many people who like to work under someone even after 10-15 years, my brother is like that, and I know many more like me who want to start companies, employ many people, and do bigger things. Both may be right in their own ways, but if you project yourself like me, then the doors will open.. Show enterprise..

    Definitely enterprising candidates do have the perfect carved out visa category for this purpose EB5. Show them a plan to create jobs and get bank to approve of your plan as being profitable and feasible, to extend you a line of credit and you'll get ur GC in 1 year.


    Its pure politics here..the current bill is an attempt to garner more ethnic votes...e.g.
    UPA never initiates action to press hard for deportation of bangla immigrats (undocumented aliens) in India because those aliens are from a particular community and UPA wants to capitalize on the valid votes that Indian citizen from the same community provide them.



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  • Mr.Z
    12-09 01:43 PM
    Hi friends,
    I need your help!!!

    I'm here at California with L-2 visa. I can stay legally in US but i can not get a SSN number, i can work too.But For a driver license they ask for SSN. Do i still get the Driver License or no?


    Thank you very much...





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  • Slumdog
    01-16 03:33 PM
    For most of you this country has given everything you ever dreamt of & yes it is only possible in USA in short span of time but I want every member here to ask yourself one question. i.e Do you have peace of mind? I want to share with you half a day of my life as an immigrant here. I guess for some my story is not a big deal & for others they feel they are in my shoes. It�s quite lengthy for half a day story, so please read on if you have patience & time.

    January xx/xx/2009

    It�s 5:10 Am and I had to forcefully get out of my bed after 3 snoozes ( the fact is 4th snooze my wife will kick me out of bed anyways) . While walking out of the bed I was jealous of my wife that she need not get up early & go to work as we recently had a baby & she had to leave the job as she was under contract on EAD & not full time. As soon as I came out of shower I was feeling very fresh , energetic & was already planning my day schedule at work while I was getting ready.

    6:00 AM: I am all dressed up for work & while I am already late for my train & taking quick bites of breakfast , I ran upstairs to my bed room to give a goodbye kiss to my wife & daughter. While kissing my daughter I just wanted to stare at her for some more time but had to leave as I was late. & ran back to garage & started my car & zoooommmmmm. I know the back routes to station & I know police wont catch me even if I am speeding ( I was going 65mph in 30 mph zone ). While I was already half way to station I realized & said to myself NOT AGAIN ( I did not turn off lights in the house & this really pisses of my wife ) I forgot to Switch off in the bath room, upstairs corridor, stiars, main hall, kitchen,. I left lights on literally everywhere including garage except the 3 bed rooms.

    6:20AM : Reached the station, parked the car & while I knew there is only 2 min left before I miss the train , I ran to newspaper walla bought the newspaper & literally ran on escalator & just got in the train & the door closed behind me. I guess this happens atleast 2-3 times a week & hey I think I got used to it.
    Once I am in the train I had relax for 5 min to to take breath from running on escalators & then I read the headlines & said nyah same old stuff which was showed at 9PM news last night & didn�t bother to read any more , I opened up business edition & completed & it was frustrating to see that DOW tumbled gain, forclosure on rise, no hopes for good market in 2009 blah blah blah blah blah & then I closed my eyes & started day dreaming about my daughter, her cute smile & thinking about my upcoming trip to india as it will be the first time I am visiting after my baby was born. Just when I though I was falling into sweet dreams I heard this announcement from train operator � Abhey salla utto , tumahara station aagya, jaakey kuch kaam kar� I will translate this in English for non indians ( good morning ladies & gentlemen you have reached station �xyz� & Thank you for riding with us & we wish to see you again�)

    6:56 Am: As soon as I am out of station the first place I go is starbucks, & get a non fat grande mocha with 2% extra hot no foam with little bit of honey & cinnamon. ( KIDDING , I just take plain regular coffee with room ). The first sip is amazing it feels like first cigg after a bottle of beer & started walking to my office which is very close to station.

    7:00Am: I am in office. Usually it is just me & couple of other guys on the floor at that time. The office was silent & it was open floor plan with flat cubicles & you see the entire floor even if you sit at your desk. Logged into PC & checked my emails & getting prepared for the days work.

    7:10Am: I saw one of the senior manager in office & it is very unusal for him to come so early into the office. While I wished him good morning he didn�t seemed to respond the way he usually does. He then walked up to one of the office colleague in different department next to me & asked him if he could come to his office.

    7:15Am: The guy walks out of the office along with manager with packet in his hand & started packing his stuff right away. I could see that his computer is still logged in & I guess he was not even allowed to log off. The manager stands behind him, occasionally helps him in his packing & walks him out of the door, into the elevator & outside the building. That�s it, my heart started beating heavily, I said to my self �today is the day� . Yes by now you all know what I was talking about !!! LAYOFFS�

    The talks have been going for several days & no one except top senior executives knew who & how many people will be laid off. Everyone I talk to in the company is worried, it did not matter if he was senior, working in company since 10 years, experienced , the best technical guy, the most lovable guy, the CEO�s blue eyed boy, every one & I mean almost everyone is worried about their job. I did not know how I was going to handle even though I was prepared before for the worst. But when the time actually came , it�s different, first time I felt I was weak because of the things below which are going in mind.
    � I bought a house just few months back, although great deal at the time I bought I had to invest 15% down payment & at that time never ever knew that this day would come. I always thought I could resell it but when I contacted my mortgage broker few days back , he told me that market was so slow that I wont be even getting the 15% down payment if I plan to sell now. With most of my hard earned savings in the house I am only left with couple of grand for reserves.
    � The biggest worry I had was 10 days after my daughter was born she was hospitalized for almost a month for complex partial seizures treatment .She has since been in medication & was doing good & slowly outgrowing seizures with occasional episodes. We can�t stop the treatment & thinking of expensive Cobra package & not knowing how many months we will be jobless made me sick.
    � How do I invoke AC21 & how many much should I be paying Lawyers?
    � My upcoming trip to india, we already spend close to 5k for the tickets & cancelling the tickets is impossible due to family reasons. What if I loose a job now & go on trip to india? Can I enter back on Advance parole? What if the port of entry finds out that I lost a job, will be I allowed in when I come back? Will my company cancel current approved I140? & will that lead to I485 cancellations which has been happening recently ??
    � What will happen to my car loans & upcoming car registration, insurance.

    Not that I don�t have any money in reserves but these are very few things I mentioned above that bothered me & list can go on & on. Is it easy pack all the bags & leave everything behind? Yes if you want to & NO if you want to fight, it�s as simple as that & I did not plan to leave. So let�s go back to what happened for the rest of the day & believe me all the above points I mentioned was going in my mind in less than a minute, so now the time is �

    7:16Am: I saw one other manager in the same process in different dept doing the exact same process. Remember, above somewhere I said that it is a open floor plan & everyone can see everything what is happening. Though I am not shaken from outside, inside I feel every inch of it.

    Part II Continuation below.......



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  • indianindian2006
    07-14 06:09 PM
    This is aboslutly incorrect. Dont spread false information.

    Here is the Q&A in USCIS memo abot changing employer before 180 days

    Question 10. Should service centers or district offices deny portability cases on the sole basis that the alien has left his or her employment with the I-140 petitioner prior to the I-485 application pending for 180 days?

    Answer: No. The basis for adjustment is not actual (current) employment but prospective employment. Since there is no requirement that the alien have ever been employed by the petitioner while the I-140 and/or I-485 was pending, the fact that an alien left the I-140 petitioner before the I-485 has been pending 180 days will not necessarily render the alien ineligible to port. However, in all cases an offer of employment must have been bona fide. This means that, as of the time the I-140 was filed and at the time of filing the I-485 if not filed concurrently, the I-140 petitioner must have had the intent to employ the beneficiary, and the alien must have intended to undertake the employment, upon adjustment. Adjudicators should not presume absence of such intent and may take the I-140 and supporting documents themselves as prima facie evidence of such intent, but in appropriate cases additional evidence or investigation may be appropriate

    You are correct but his case could be that his employer cancelled his 140 which could damage his case more than the use of AC21 to change employers.





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  • pitha
    01-30 03:20 PM
    I believe it is also illegal to work before getting a social security number. When you are on H4 you dont have a social security number (you have an itin which is not good enough for working). You will not get a social security number unless you have work authorization (i797). H1 will start only after october 1, so you can apply for social security number only after October 1 (i.e if you have i 797), it will take you about 4 to 7 weeks to get ssn. You can work only after getting the ssn. Somebody correct me if i wrong here.

    One more thing about desi companies.

    When you go from H4 to H1 or F1 to H1, you are legally allowed to work for your sponsor only after H1 approval (I-797) comes, not after the receipt notice comes. When you transfer H1s from company A to company B, you can start working as soon as the receipt notice for transfer petition is received. That is the law.

    Now, since our dear desi employers are known to be greedy and also known to be comfortable in bending, breaking or ignoring the law, once they file for your H4 to H1 transfer, they would want you to start working right away. Forget about waiting for H1 approval notice, they are unlikely to wait even for the receipt notice. It would be illegal to work on H4 even if you have the receipt notice in your hands for H4 to H1 transfer.

    However, they would want you to work, so that you can start generating the revenue for the company. (hey, it costs money to do your transfer and money doesnt grow on trees). And who's gonna know. Once you are a willing participant in this, you are not going to report it, they are not going to report it and the client (your project location) would not even know the difference between H1 and H4. And ICE has its hands full in busting illegals working in meat packing plants.

    Now, that is not all. In order to cover up the fact that you were working (and on their payroll) while in H4 without waiting for H1 approval, they may pay you in checks other than payroll checks. Either as an expense check or something else(cash, money order etc). There is another law they are breaking in the process of covering up the immigration law violation. The tax laws. By not paying you on a regular payroll, they cannot deduct your income tax and the employer's payroll tax. So it would be "Off the books".

    Anyways, clarify with them that you will not work until you see the original approval of I-797 in your hands. That way, you wont be dragged into this mud.
    -------------------------------------------
    PS
    I am not advocating that anyone break any laws. I am just stating what I have known from this industry and the usual practices so that people can avoid getting into situations where they unknowingly break the laws due to their employers' greed. Also, I am not denigrating Desis or desi companies, I am myself an Indian.



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  • andy garcia
    09-10 12:15 PM
    Only if you plan to remain in the U.S. permanently and you don't like the fact that you'll have to wait for many years without the ability to get a salary raise or promotion, without your spouse being able to work (if you have one) and being forced to leave the U.S. immediately if you get laid off.

    If you are perfectly happy with your H1-B job and planning to stay in the U.S. only temporarily, then no, you are not in a jail or closet. But 99% of us are.

    I have been here for 8 years and I do not have the option of going back to my country like you guys from India. I applied for my 485 2 years ago and my son and wife are working already.

    When I was on H1, I was happy with the company. It seems that people who are using the sponsor company as a tool to get the GC are the ones complaininf the most about.



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  • chanduv23
    11-14 10:44 AM
    Dont take me wrong on this one... but If I am not wrong rajuram wants some one from her dis. to call her. Here is my experience in this week.

    I called Zoe's Office recently but lady over phone told me to call my local lawmaker. She didnot give any detail on HR 5882. She told she is not aware of it right now. I went online to send email but I got this message when I put my zip code.

    'Access to the requested form is denied, the zip code which you entered does not provide access to this form.'

    We need some one from her district to call her office and find out.

    We need support from california members on this one.

    Rajuram can call his local office. Rajuram can energize base around him and lead a team. There are a lot of things Rajuram can do other than sit and give orders to others.





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  • bayarea07
    09-10 02:24 PM
    HR5882 will be presented next after HR6020 :-)

    I do see some action now on http://judiciary.house.gov/hearings/calendar.html

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  • Since1997
    08-15 05:28 PM
    The reason for availability is:

    D. EMPLOYMENT PREFERENCE VISA AVAILABILITY FOR SEPTEMBER

    Due to the return of unused July numbers by consular posts abroad, and the limited amount of pending demand eligible for final processing at consular posts, it has been possible to reestablish cut-off dates in many of the Employment preference categories.



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  • neverbefore
    07-15 05:27 PM
    My case is exactly same as yours except my PD is Feb 27th and I received an RFE for Birth Certificate when the dates went current in 2008 August. Since then I saw LUD's for 3 weeks and then its been all quiet I am hoping that means application was pre adjudicated.

    Folks, we had an interview in December of 2008 and the IO said that had the dates been current, she would have approved our 485.

    Now that we should get current from August 1, can you hazard a guess as to what might most likely happen? Do you think we might get a biometrics notice once again since fingerprints expire after 1 year (my understanding)? Or do you think we might get a CPO notice? Or some other third thing?

    Please enlighten. :confused:

    Thanks and best regards.





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  • Openarms
    10-20 11:47 AM
    Well said... no other explaination is needed.

    Do you all ever wonder why 1996 to 2000 was great and the economy never went to quite the 2000 levels? It is because of useless wars and getting the job shipped to other countries. That is the republican agenda. If you think you will have a better chance of green card under Republican rule, you are sadly mistaken. The economy will continue to go down, while there will be another Iran war to turn the attention from problems with economy. We need someone who can think clear and be steady. It doesn't matter if the republicans have pro immigration stance or not. The economy is going to dictate if companies are going to keep us employed here. You need to see the bigger picture.
    Moreover it is during the democratic president that immigration got relaxed. At one point the H1 quota was raised to 200 thousand. It takes 8 or more years to get green card under republican rule. It wasn't the case during clinton years. Before you say that it is the house/senate that decides immigration policies, republican had control from 2000 to 2006. What has been done that has our chances improved?
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  • Zil
    09-28 03:20 AM
    I have 2 European co-workers. They both told me, "The only way we will go back to Europe is when we die".

    Which European countries are they from? Their opinion can be relevant in this context if they are from a rich EU country, but less convincing if they are from Albania, for example.





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    04-09 04:19 PM
    Dear Mrs. Hillary Clinton
    Heartfelt thanks for making such an effort to answer consumer grievances. My Admiration for this administration and their efforts to improve communication is growing exponentially every day. God Bless you and God Bless America.
    We are wringing these questions in effort to understand the VISA allocation processes followed by DOS. Also how it affects effectively petitioners live to plan their future, travel, Buying house etc...
    1.0) Is IVACS primary application for tracking VISA requests from USCIS, Consular posts?
    Rationale: Any Software/Application used by DOS should be single source for data entry of all the new application.
    1.1) Does IVACS system (DOS�s Inventory system) connects electronically to USCIS system, Consular posts or NVC or any other agencies for VISA demand requests?
    Rationale: Any Software/Application used by DOS need talk to Client System (USCIS, Consular posts, NVC or other agencies) every month system for effectively moving VISA bulletin every month.

    1.2) In Absence of Interface � Does IVACS system receive VISA demand sent manually through flat file or spreadsheet?
    Rationale: In absence of electronic interface DOS need to manually receive data for effectively predicting VISA bulletin every month.
    2.0) How many Employment-based I485 VISA demands are pending at USCIS, NVC, Consular posts?
    Rationale: We are trying to get Employment based pending applications.
    3.0) IS this last Pending EmploymentDemandUsedForCutOffDates.pdf on 4/8/2010 - http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/EmploymentDemandUsedForCutOffDates.pdf includes all the Employment based I485 VISA demand?

    Rationale: We are trying to confirm data received are all inclusive.

    4.0) Can DOS Enhance/publish table for �total number of VISA available�� as on report preparation date, rather than total Fiscal availability. As per table showed below,
    Rationale: This will help applicants to estimate date of approval and plan for buying house, make major move etc.

    Preference China Demand India Demand Maxico Philippines ROW Worldwide limit
    Beginning Demand Allocated this month End Demand Allocated this fiscal Beginning Demand Allocated this month End Demand Allocated this fiscal Beginning Demand Allocated this month End Demand Allocated this fiscal Beginning Demand Allocated this month End Demand Allocated this fiscal Beginning Demand Allocated this month End Demand Allocated this fiscal
    E1
    E2
    E3
    E4
    E5


    5.0) Can DOS generate monthly VISA returns report from USCIS, NVC, Consular posts or any other agencies that demands Employment VISA?
    Rationale: This will help us understand how much visa were available for reallocation.

    6.0) INA section Sec 201 (2) mentions usages of visa per �Calendar Quarter� with maximum limit of 27% per quarter. As EB2 & EB3 categories are retro gassed Are Minimum 140k/4 Visa's consumed every quarter? If no which section of INA being applied to not to do so?
    Rationale: To understand DOS�s interpretation and application of the law.
    7.0) Where we can find DOS published monthly EB/FB permanent residency VISA demand report with country of chargeability, Employment based category (for e.g. EB1, EB2, EB3, �), similar to report published by DOL.
    Rationale: This will help applicants to estimate date of approval and plan for buying house, make major move etc.

    8.0) What is rational of EB3-India Visa allocation only approximately 100 a month? We feel that before EB3-I become unavailable it should get 140*7%*28.6% = 2802/12 VISA�s every month. EB3-I VISA reductions from Inventory reports before their Priority Date is as follows,
    a) Between Inventory Published 03/12/10 & 01/30/10 = 100
    b) Between Inventory Published between 01/30/10 & 04/08/10 = 100
    Rationale: This will help EB3 applicants to estimate date of approval to plan their future for house Purchase or major move etc.

    9.0) How do you propose to reconcile the pending data reported by DOS and USCIS.
    We are Comparing data from two sources USCIS published pending inventory and DOS published monthly determination, And we have Found data Differences for following categories,
    USCIS Pending for EB3-China as on March 08, 2010 === 5,575
    DOS Pending for EB3-China as on March 01, 2010 === 8,900
    Rationale: Closing gap in case of data error.
    References:
    i. EmploymentDemandUsedForCutOffDates.pdf - http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/EmploymentDemandUsedForCutOffDates.pdf
    ii. Operation of the Numerical Control Process - http://www.travel.state.gov/pdf/Immigrant%20Visa%20Control%20System_operation%20of .pdf

    Dude i must say, it must have taken a huge effort to come up with all this. But guess what, it wont make a dent. There are way too many Indians, Chinese and Mexicans in line and too few GC's to give out.




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